Are lootboxes gambling?

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Do lootboxes constitute gambling?

  • Yes, so they should be banned

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Yes, so games with lootboxes should be automatically given an M/17+ rating

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Yes, but they shouldn't be legislated

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No

    Votes: 2 50.0%

  • Total voters
    4

CJTreader2001

Known Poster
Premium Member
#1
In the wake of consumer outrage over the implementation of lootboxes in Battlefront II, there's been quite a bit of discussion about whether lootboxes are gambling and what the government should do about it. What are your thoughts?
 

guul66

Funk Police, Anti-Edgy department
#2
gambling means you put in money with risk to earn more money. With lootboxes you always earn something, how much is a different question. Also lootbox rewards aren't monetary.
 

CJTreader2001

Known Poster
Premium Member
#3
gambling means you put in money with risk to earn more money. With lootboxes you always earn something, how much is a different question. Also lootbox rewards aren't monetary.
True enough, but does always getting something really make it not gambling? If slot machines always guaranteed at least a penny, I'd still consider that gambling because that's still a risk. From my understanding, gambling rewards don't necessarily have to be monetary but simply something of value.
 

guul66

Funk Police, Anti-Edgy department
#4
True enough, but does always getting something really make it not gambling? If slot machines always guaranteed at least a penny, I'd still consider that gambling because that's still a risk. From my understanding, gambling rewards don't necessarily have to be monetary but simply something of value.
Gambling needs a risk, but if you always get something then there is no risk.
 

Kraze

Moderator
Staff member
#6
No. You put something in and are guaranteed something. Any monetary value is decided by the community, and the only other value a lootbox item has is akin to a rare pokemon card which aren't specifically meant to be sold or have a set monetary value. Even if we agreed on Lootboxes being gambling the last thing games need is to be legislated by a bunch of old people who have probably never touched a video game in their lifetime. We can't claim that video games don't cause violence and then turn around and say games can make people gambling addicts.
 
#7
yEESSSSSS. you take A CHANCE ANd asWhatat you GET isn't ANLKWA ALWAYS the same in price as wHAT you paid for iut. thereFOER it IS so totaYL gambling. will you get gud and open a super cool box? Who KNOWS!? or will you open up a cheap LAME ASS box and get dog shhhhittttttttttttttttttttttttt. yes likely yes yes.
 

CJTreader2001

Known Poster
Premium Member
#8
No. You put something in and are guaranteed something. Any monetary value is decided by the community, and the only other value a lootbox item has is akin to a rare pokemon card which aren't specifically meant to be sold or have a set monetary value. Even if we agreed on Lootboxes being gambling the last thing games need is to be legislated by a bunch of old people who have probably never touched a video game in their lifetime. We can't claim that video games don't cause violence and then turn around and say games can make people gambling addicts.
I just don't see being guaranteed SOMETHING necessarily means it isn't gambling. Again, if I opened up a casino but guaranteed at least a penny return on every bet, it wouldn't discount it as gambling. You're taking a gamble, so it's obviously gambling in my eyes. This whole situation just shows what an overly ambiguous term it is. I agree they shouldn't be legislated, but I also see no reason to ban gambling in general.

yEESSSSSS. you take A CHANCE ANd asWhatat you GET isn't ANLKWA ALWAYS the same in price as wHAT you paid for iut. thereFOER it IS so totaYL gambling. will you get gud and open a super cool box? Who KNOWS!? or will you open up a cheap LAME ASS box and get dog shhhhittttttttttttttttttttttttt. yes likely yes yes.
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#9
I just don't see being guaranteed SOMETHING necessarily means it isn't gambling. Again, if I opened up a casino but guaranteed at least a penny return on every bet, it wouldn't discount it as gambling. You're taking a gamble, so it's obviously gambling in my eyes. This whole situation just shows what an overly ambiguous term it is. I agree they shouldn't be legislated, but I also see no reason to ban gambling in general.


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Obama

Known Poster
#10
Just because it does not fit the definition of gambling does not mean it doesn't take advantage the same way gambling does. Honestly I don't mind microtransactions. If you look at a game like siege that has given me more than enough content for free and has been supported by microtransactions and I got the content because of the microtransactions. I dont mind them but when the system and game mechanics are based around loot boxes then it has gone to far but I don't believe it should be illegal but instead vote with your wallet.
 

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